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		<title>Crime and Punishment in Islam</title>
		<description>Discuss Crime and Punishment in Islam</description>
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			<title>also known as . says:</title>
			<link>http://www.islamicinsights.com/religion/clergy-corner/crime-and-punishment-in-islam.html#comment-3436</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm not really surprised you got warned. You're an obnoxious moron who posted more than 15 times when you could have just done it in one, cogent letter. In your rambling rants, you jumped from topic to topic, constantly going on about how you need to save Muslims, as if we're too dumb to live our own lives. Big surprise then that you just come back with more insults, that's really going to win you a lot of followers! You fall prey to web masters with your bad attitude and silliness. You dish our criticism, but you cannot take it. You show that you do not know how you are being tested. :roll:]]></description>
			<dc:creator>also known as .</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:10:04 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>IslamicInsights: @Curt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.islamicinsights.com/religion/clergy-corner/crime-and-punishment-in-islam.html#comment-3428</link>
			<description><![CDATA[[censored]alam Alaikum, Your comments from this and several other articles have been removed. They were initially allowed because you seemed to have legitimate questions that required answers. However, it has since become clear that you are merely spamming the site and making nonsensical remarks that have nothing to do with Islam. You are welcome to post comments in the future which are relevant to the respective article, but please note that if you continue with your rants, your IP will be blocked. Regards, The Islamic Insights Team]]></description>
			<dc:creator>IslamicInsights: @Curt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:27:59 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>jmk says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Excellent point! I would also add that if given the choice between stoning to death vs. hundreds of years in the fire of hell, I'd definitely choose the former. :-)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jmk</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:14:59 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>it is all relative says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[You know what? If someone gave me the choice between lashes and 20 years in prison, I'd choose the lashes, wouldn't you? American prisons are overflowing and they are dangerous places that breed further criminality. Many prisons in the U.S. you can't survive without joining a gang, and prisoners are in a constant state of racial/gang tension that could lead to violence at any time. Clearly, the system of just locking everyone up doesn't work and it ruins not only the prisoner's life but his/her family's lives as well.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>it is all relative</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 12:17:40 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>Bruce Sova says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[These punishments for sins are barbaric! They have no place in modern society.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bruce Sova</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:20:52 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>sm: part 2 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[So obviously stoning is a punishment endorsed by our Ahlul Bayt [as]. It also becomes evident from the incident of Imam Ali [as] that the "half punishment" is in the case of fornication, not adultery. Of course, there are many conditions that have to be met as elucidated upon by the author of the article, but the punishment in itself is applicable. With all due respect, this is a matter of Islamic jurisprudence, so the opinions of ordinary people (such as the ones on a forum) do not really matter. For a scholarly analysis of this issue, please see the following section from Ayatollah Dastghaib Shirazi's [ra] book Greater Sins: http://www.al-islam.org/greater_sins_complete/15.htm#8]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sm: part 2</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:26:06 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>sm says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA["The idea of stoning contradicts the Qur'an, namely 4:25. That verse says the punishment for adultry of a married slave-woman is half that of a married free-woman." This is incorrect. The Qur'an doesn't use the word "punishment for ADULTERY". If you read the original Arabic for verse 4:25, it uses the term FAHISHA, which literally means indecency. So at this point, obviously we have to look towards the Hadith for clarification and cannot rely on personal opinion of anyone. Therefore, Ayatollah Mahdi Pooya mentions the following incident in the tafseer of verse 24:2: Six persons, accused of adultery, were produced before the then caliph, Umar bin Khattab. At once he sentenced them to flogging, each of them with a hundred stripes. When Ali pointed out to him that his judgement was in contravention of the divine law, Umar requested him to give his own judgement. Ali said: Execute the first. Stone to death the second. Punish the third with a hundred stripes. Punish the fourth with fifty stripes. Warn the fifth and set him free. Set the sixth free without any penalty. All wondered as to why Ali gave a different verdict for each of the 6 persons tried for the same crime. Ali explained: The first is a dhimmi, a disbeliever under the protection of the Muslim state, who committed the crime of adultery with a believing woman, and having violated the law of Islam has ceased to be a dhimmi, therefore he must be executed. The second is a married man whose punishment is stoning to death. The third is to be flogged with a hundred stripes because he is a bachelor. The fourth is a slave, so fifty stripes is his punishment . The fifth has only been warned because he was caught in the crime inadvertently. The sixth is insane, so the law cannot be applied on him. Then Umar said: "Had there not been Ali, Umar would have perished."]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sm</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:23:54 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>Muslim Jinn says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[The idea of applying deadly forms of punishment for non-deadly crimes is unIslamic. Yes, we have hadeeth about stoning adulterers and killing homosexuals, but they are not mutawatir hadeeth. The idea of stoning contradicts the Qur'an, namely 4:25. That verse says the punishment for adultry of a married slave-woman is half that of a married free-woman. So how exactly can you stone a married slave-woman half to death? You can't. This proves that the punishment for adultery can't be stoning. We have more discussion on the topic at: http://revertmuslims.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4970]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Muslim Jinn</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:32:17 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>sm says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[censored]alam alaikum, If you are curious about the particular Sakineh case, this article would be really helpful: http://www.voltairenet.org/article167041.html Otherwise, in general stoning is something that has been sanctioned in the Hadith and examples of the Prophet [saww] and Ahlul Bayt [as]. This is also consistent with what the Old Testament says about the crime of adultery. In terms of WHY, perhaps the slow, painful death for an adulterer goes to show the despicability of this crime..? There is a nice lecture by Sayed Ammar where he talks about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErjLjCL4clQ]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sm</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:56:08 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>Jabir says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Salamun alaykum, jazak'Allahu khair for the link. I'm learning from the exchanges and discussions. By the way, I am a new Muslim, that's why I am asking so I can also relate the answer to my friends, relatives and to anybody who might ask my opinion regarding this kind of punishment in Islam in the light of Qur'an.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jabir</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:12:38 --500</pubDate>
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